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Havamal

Inläggav Emoni » 27 mars 2004, 12:09

Bättre börda bära ingen man än mycket mannamod,
fick vi lära oss rabbla i skolan som exempel på alliteration.
Nu undrar jag;
visst är väl denna strof från havamal?
men är den rätt, ordagrant?
och är det någon som har en äldre(kanske ursprunglig) "översättning"

Många tack,
Emoni
Emoni
 
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Inläggav Vix Hq » 27 mars 2004, 16:16

Jag fick lära mig "mycket mannavett"...men då snubblar ju alitterationen. Men från Havamal ska det vara i alla fall om jag inte minns helt fel. Min havamal ligger därhemma och skräpar så jag kan inte kolla närmare. Men jag är övertygad om att någon annan har bättre svar [:)]!

/Vix.
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Inläggav Carrot » 27 mars 2004, 20:12

Bättre börda man bär ej på vägen än mycket mannavett.
Sämre vägkost man ej släpar över fältet än övermått av mjöd.

Detta ur min kopia av eddan och havamal.
Carrot
 
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Inläggav fardäng » 30 mars 2004, 08:14

Den senare översättningen är Erik Brates version av strof 10 i Havamal och den äldsta som jag stött på. Den brukar finnas med då och då på bokrean.
fardäng
 
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Inläggav Vesuvius » 3 april 2004, 21:34

Det torde vara rätt översatt, om man kollar på isländska versionen så är det rätt lätt att se, även om man inte kan ett ord isländska;

"11. Byrði betri
ber-at maður brautu að
en sé <i>mannvit mikið</i>.
Vegnest verra
vegur-a hann velli að
en sé ofdrykkja öls"

notera att detta maður är man på isländska, liksom runan Madr också representerar man, eller människa. Men det hör inte hit.

Men hursomhelst verkar det vara korrekt översatt.

//Ves
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