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Historiska världars forum 2005-03-09T22:24:03+01:00 https://www.historiskavarldar.se/forum/feed.php?f=21&t=1661 2005-03-09T22:24:03+01:00 2005-03-09T22:24:03+01:00 https://www.historiskavarldar.se/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1661&p=19592#p19592 <![CDATA[Speaking of Saami]]>
Thanks again.
-Judy Mitchell

Statistik: Postat av Judy Mitchell — 9 mars 2005, 22:24

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Harrys Arbetskläder AB
51192 Kinna
Phone: + 0320-440 60

/Vix.

Statistik: Postat av Vix Hq — 14 februari 2005, 14:47

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Fabulous. We are meeting up with someone there who is taking us around. She didn't think there was much in the way of clothing there, but it will still be great to see whatever they've got. She did say they have a good library, and something about rare books that she could translate bits of for us. I'm also hoping to find some good costume books. I have quite a collection of books in languages I can't really read. [:D] I can usually manage to pick up enough vocabularly to understand some of what is being said in Swedish and Danish books. Unfortunately Finnish tends to make my eyes spin. [:I]

-Judy Mitchell

Statistik: Postat av Judy Mitchell — 14 februari 2005, 04:28

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- and then we take the ferry to Helsinki for the weekend.
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In Helsinki!!:
The National Museum also has a significant Sámi collection, containing some 2 600 objects. Most of the objects were collected between 1902 and 1939 during extensive collection expeditions to Lapland.
Mannerheimvägen 34,
phone. (09) 4050 9544
http://www.nba.fi/en/nmf
With a little luck you find Sami costumes in Helsinki! [:)]

Statistik: Postat av Heinrich H — 13 februari 2005, 19:23

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Angus: thanks for the phone number. I didn't see a website either, but I'll write down the info to take with us.

Elin: ah, that would explain why I couldn't find any clothing either! Wonderful pics though, I still would like to have seen the exhibit. After all, you get a much better idea of the size of things when you see them in person.
Oh, and thanks for the links. A couple of them I have been looking through. like Destination-Stockholm. but ouch! they may claim 399Kr, but I'm not seeing it. The cheapest has been the Alvik at 1400Kr a night. But the Colonial Hotel looks good.
So Norway produces wadmal? interesting. Now that you mention it, one of my fabric bookmarks does carry a lot of Italian wool. I always wondered why I should care that it was Italian over anyone else's. Now I see that it's almost the ONLY wool! And yes, I probably will (hopefully) visit Scandinavia again. I've been to Denmark and Norway twice, this is my first time to see Sweden. I really hope to come back again.

Nenne: wow, that's very generous. Perhaps we should take this off-list? my email is judymitch@oldwaylane.net. But can your guest-room hold 3 adults? The Colonial might be fine.

Thanks so much, everyone!

-Judy Mitchell

Statistik: Postat av Judy Mitchell — 13 februari 2005, 16:12

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-Judy Mitchell
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We have a guest room[:D]. You are more than welcome to use it. Note that that includes three children in the next room...

//Nenne

Statistik: Postat av Nenne — 13 februari 2005, 13:22

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Elin: we had planned on going to see Skanse, at least what is open in March. Thank you for the link, I'll try to contact them. And we also are losing our wool mills. I wonder where the mills are left? I think someone said once the wool was being imported from England? It's getting difficult for us to find. And we never had vadmal.
I was very disappointed to hear that the Nordica Museum had closed it's Sami display, it would have been such a great help. But you say they have photos online? fabulous, I'll check them right out. Next best thing if I can't see them myself. [:)]
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Hi again!
Now I´ve checked out Nordiskas online collection and it only covers gears, not costumes. Sorry.

About wool mills: I think Italy is a big manufacturer of wool fabric. Their fashion industry is one of Europe´s biggest.

In the Gothenburg region you find Saxylle, http://www.saxylle.se/
a producer of wool fabric for costumes, so thin and delicate you wouldn´t believe it´s wool. But that is lightyears from vadmal... [:D]
Norway has a mill who produces vadmal: http://www.gu.no/gueng/maindesign.asp?aid=528&gid=389

When you visit Scandinavia next time... [8D]

Statistik: Postat av elin — 13 februari 2005, 10:13

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Now I have to comb the web to find some place affordable for 3 adults to stay around Stockholm for 3 nights (well, 1 person leaves on the second day).

-Judy Mitchell
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http://www.stfturist.se/ youth hostels
http://www.rygerfjord.se/ boat youth hostel in central city
http://www.citylodge.se/index_eng.htm youth hostel in central city
http://www.abbes.se/ hostel in central city
http://www.destination-stockholm.se/ hotels
http://www.stores.se/hostal.htm hotel

Statistik: Postat av elin — 13 februari 2005, 10:03

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I thought there must be some place where folks buy their fabric for Larping and re-enacting. I'll look for their website.<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">
AFAIK they don't have one. All I can find via google are posts in various forums and web pages of individual LARPers mentioning them.
Their phone# is 08 - 29 94 20 and the fax# is 08-28 83 70.

/Angus

Statistik: Postat av Angus Maciomhair — 13 februari 2005, 04:57

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Nenne: wow, that would be so kind of you! although I realize that while you may available now... things can change in a month. [;)] I don't think we'll have a car, so I'm not entirely sure how we're getting around. But 16 March and 17 March look like our best times for shopping. There will only be myself and my friend Ann at that point.

Elin: we had planned on going to see Skanse, at least what is open in March. Thank you for the link, I'll try to contact them. And we also are losing our wool mills. I wonder where the mills are left? I think someone said once the wool was being imported from England? It's getting difficult for us to find. And we never had vadmal.
Oh good, there's a Hemslöjden in Umea? You're right, I think that would be a good place to check for the tenntråd. I wasn't sure where the shops were. I found out about them when I was researching 17th century Swedish outfits. The shops in Dalarna were great!
I was very disappointed to hear that the Nordica Museum had closed it's Sami display, it would have been such a great help. But you say they have photos online? fabulous, I'll check them right out. Next best thing if I can't see them myself. [:)]

Thank you so much, you've been great. Now I have to comb the web to find some place affordable for 3 adults to stay around Stockholm for 3 nights (well, 1 person leaves on the second day).

-Judy Mitchell

Statistik: Postat av Judy Mitchell — 13 februari 2005, 00:50

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In Stockholm you could buy fabric at Sundbybergs textilcentrum.
Karin
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If you want to get there I could give you a lift. I'm free daytime at the moment anyway [:)]
//Nenne

Statistik: Postat av Nenne — 12 februari 2005, 23:08

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They have a huge collection of folk costumes, (some of them for rent!!). (Skansen= the world´s oldest open air museum http://www.skansen.se/eng/index.html ).

The Nordic Museum's department for folk costume is closed for reconstruction work some years on. But the museum have about 6000 Sami objects in their collections and ca. 3000 of them can be viewed at their homepage
http://www.nordiskamuseet.se/exhibs/sameting/same1.aspx
You search on Föremål= object, Föremålsgrupp= group of object, Material and Technic.

At The Historiska you may find Sami jewellry.

Buying fabric? We hardly have any weaving mills left in Sweden, there are some in the Gothenburg area. At Hemslöjden (Arts & Crafts) in Umeå (adress: Renmarkstorget 5 D, phone 090-13 70 13) I think you will find tenntråd. They may also tell you if there are any store nearby who sell vadmal.
e-mail: hemslojdsfor dot v-botten at spray dot se

When you are in Falun, be sure to visit Dalarnas Hemslöjd (Dalecarlia Arts&Crafts), (Stora Torget, phone 023-151 31)

In Stockholm we have a rather big store (as mentioned above) who deals with fabric for teathrical purposes, they have imported vadmal and wool fabrics, but they are rather expensive (about 50-100 SEK/meter, 1 dollar = 7,08 SEK today). They have no homepage.

/Elin

PS. I think Sorsele is considered South Sami.

Statistik: Postat av elin — 12 februari 2005, 23:03

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Karin

Statistik: Postat av Karin — 12 februari 2005, 22:09

]]> 2005-02-12T01:16:00+01:00 2005-02-12T01:16:00+01:00 https://www.historiskavarldar.se/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1661&p=18869#p18869 <![CDATA[Speaking of Saami]]> Yes, he did. Apparently when he was roaming around, he fell in love with it also and bought an outfit - and had his portrait painted while wearing it. I saw that pic in a book about shoes. Apparently they actually found his Sami shoes under a floorboard in his house. No clue why they'd be there, but they have no idea who else would have had Sami shoes in his house. The fur has all worn/been eaten off, but the rest of the leather is still together. Pretty cool. No idea where the outfit is.
I did always wonder what color it was. Many of the old postcards seem to show outfits in browns. I wonder when all the bright colors started coming into use? Looking through Vasterbotten's photo collection, it looks like the Four Winds hat and the hat with the hard visor and bit pompom must both be fairly recent.

-Judy Mitchell

Statistik: Postat av Judy Mitchell — 12 februari 2005, 01:16

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http://www2.nrm.se/fbo/hist/linnaeus/linnaeus1.jpg

Statistik: Postat av Vesuvius — 11 februari 2005, 19:42

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