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Historiska världars forum 2010-09-19T09:46:05+01:00 https://www.historiskavarldar.se/forum/feed.php?f=12&t=7556 2010-09-19T09:46:05+01:00 2010-09-19T09:46:05+01:00 https://www.historiskavarldar.se/forum/viewtopic.php?t=7556&p=56055#p56055 <![CDATA[Pilbågar senromersk tid - vikingatid?]]>
Swordsman, Archer and a dad!

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2010-09-18T14:58:17+01:00 2010-09-18T14:58:17+01:00 https://www.historiskavarldar.se/forum/viewtopic.php?t=7556&p=56044#p56044 <![CDATA[Pilbågar senromersk tid - vikingatid?]]> Statistik: Postat av Matti — 18 september 2010, 14:58


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2010-09-15T14:43:12+01:00 2010-09-15T14:43:12+01:00 https://www.historiskavarldar.se/forum/viewtopic.php?t=7556&p=55993#p55993 <![CDATA[Pilbågar senromersk tid - vikingatid?]]> Statistik: Postat av Fundin — 15 september 2010, 14:43


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2010-09-14T15:02:47+01:00 2010-09-14T15:02:47+01:00 https://www.historiskavarldar.se/forum/viewtopic.php?t=7556&p=55984#p55984 <![CDATA[Pilbågar senromersk tid - vikingatid?]]>
Jag har beställt en långbåge av Per och den borde vara klar om kanske två veckor. [:D]

/Wolfie

"Always carry a flagon of whiskey in case of snakebite and furthermore always carry a small snake"

W. C. Fields

Statistik: Postat av Vargman — 14 september 2010, 15:02


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2010-09-13T15:36:01+01:00 2010-09-13T15:36:01+01:00 https://www.historiskavarldar.se/forum/viewtopic.php?t=7556&p=55972#p55972 <![CDATA[Pilbågar senromersk tid - vikingatid?]]>
Engelsmännen hade väl 2 nyheter, det ena är hornnocken som låter ytterlemmen vara tunnare utan att krasha vilket ger mindre totalvikt i ytterlemmen och bättre fart i bågen (gäller givetvis bara bågar som är så kraftiga att det spelar roll, under 80# typ är hornnocken ennackdel.

Det andra var organiseringen av skyttarna, många, tränade sedan barnsben och diciplinerade, med fungerande logistik för att få ut pilar till dem var den andra nyheten.

Thats it, simple ;o)

Statistik: Postat av Fundin — 13 september 2010, 15:36


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2010-09-01T07:57:44+01:00 2010-09-01T07:57:44+01:00 https://www.historiskavarldar.se/forum/viewtopic.php?t=7556&p=55883#p55883 <![CDATA[Pilbågar senromersk tid - vikingatid?]]>
Swordsman, Archer and a dad!

Statistik: Postat av Martin Wallgren — 1 september 2010, 07:57


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2010-09-01T07:14:22+01:00 2010-09-01T07:14:22+01:00 https://www.historiskavarldar.se/forum/viewtopic.php?t=7556&p=55882#p55882 <![CDATA[Pilbågar senromersk tid - vikingatid?]]>
/Wolfie

"Always carry a flagon of whiskey in case of snakebite and furthermore always carry a small snake"

W. C. Fields

Statistik: Postat av Vargman — 1 september 2010, 07:14


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2010-08-31T21:12:09+01:00 2010-08-31T21:12:09+01:00 https://www.historiskavarldar.se/forum/viewtopic.php?t=7556&p=55877#p55877 <![CDATA[Pilbågar senromersk tid - vikingatid?]]>
Swordsman, Archer and a dad!

Statistik: Postat av Martin Wallgren — 31 augusti 2010, 21:12


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2010-08-31T20:35:37+01:00 2010-08-31T20:35:37+01:00 https://www.historiskavarldar.se/forum/viewtopic.php?t=7556&p=55873#p55873 <![CDATA[Pilbågar senromersk tid - vikingatid?]]>
/Wolfie

"Always carry a flagon of whiskey in case of snakebite and furthermore always carry a small snake"

W. C. Fields

Statistik: Postat av Vargman — 31 augusti 2010, 20:35


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2010-08-31T17:40:03+01:00 2010-08-31T17:40:03+01:00 https://www.historiskavarldar.se/forum/viewtopic.php?t=7556&p=55865#p55865 <![CDATA[Pilbågar senromersk tid - vikingatid?]]>
Som ett tillägg i diskussionen kan jag rekomedera videon med Steve Stratton på CoSS blogg där han beskriver i korta ordalag lite om hans reconstruktion av Ötzis båge. http://sebastianarchers.blogspot.com/

Swordsman, Archer and a dad!

Statistik: Postat av Martin Wallgren — 31 augusti 2010, 17:40


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2010-08-31T09:13:43+01:00 2010-08-31T09:13:43+01:00 https://www.historiskavarldar.se/forum/viewtopic.php?t=7556&p=55858#p55858 <![CDATA[Pilbågar senromersk tid - vikingatid?]]> Statistik: Postat av athon — 31 augusti 2010, 09:13


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2010-08-31T09:06:12+01:00 2010-08-31T09:06:12+01:00 https://www.historiskavarldar.se/forum/viewtopic.php?t=7556&p=55857#p55857 <![CDATA[Pilbågar senromersk tid - vikingatid?]]>
Ingen kommentar om längden på Ötzis båge? Hur lång är egentligen en långbåge i förhållande till skyttens längd?

/Wolfie

"Always carry a flagon of whiskey in case of snakebite and furthermore always carry a small snake"

W. C. Fields

Statistik: Postat av Vargman — 31 augusti 2010, 09:06


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2010-08-30T20:26:01+01:00 2010-08-30T20:26:01+01:00 https://www.historiskavarldar.se/forum/viewtopic.php?t=7556&p=55849#p55849 <![CDATA[Pilbågar senromersk tid - vikingatid?]]>
Ang originalfrågan rekommenderar jag Nydamm bågarna som exempel på germanska bågar (långbågar i idegran lite klenare än senare engelska och utan hornnockar, beräknas hamna kring 70-80#)

Vidare finns diverse fynd av bågar av långbågekaraktär men något smalare över handtaget (holland 700 tal tex). Även dessa i idegran som var överlägset vanligaste bågmaterialet i fynd från denna tid.

Angående rommerska hornbågar är det svårt att säga något, kanske snegla på de ungerska fynden (www.atarn.org)

Gemensamt för många av fynden från denna tid är att man ofta har väldigt enkla nockar, ofta bara en sidnock i överlemmen och gissningsvis en fastknuten sträng på underlemmen. Sidnocken är ofta så grund att man kan anta att knuten måste varit av strypsnare karaktär för att strängen skulle sitta kvar.

Statistik: Postat av Fundin — 30 augusti 2010, 20:26


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2010-08-30T19:17:48+01:00 2010-08-30T19:17:48+01:00 https://www.historiskavarldar.se/forum/viewtopic.php?t=7556&p=55848#p55848 <![CDATA[Pilbågar senromersk tid - vikingatid?]]> Statistik: Postat av Matti — 30 augusti 2010, 19:17


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2010-08-30T07:53:00+01:00 2010-08-30T07:53:00+01:00 https://www.historiskavarldar.se/forum/viewtopic.php?t=7556&p=55841#p55841 <![CDATA[Pilbågar senromersk tid - vikingatid?]]>
Kollade på Comitatus sida och där verkar det vara recurvebågar som gäller. Så här står det på deras hemsida om bågar:


<i>"The reconstruction of Roman bows cannot be an exact science. Little is known about the actual style of construction used for 4th century Roman recurved bows. The length of some of the bone and antler ear laths suggests the bows were not as heavily recurved as later Mongol examples, and that they were asymmetrical, with the upper limb taller than the lower. This is useful when riding. A partially surviving Parthian weapon from Baghouz has been reconstructed. Known as the Yrzi bow after the area of the cemetery where it was found, the reconstruction had a draw weight of approximately 60-80lb. But the Middle-Eastern tradition of bow making would differ from that of the Huns of Central Asia, and possibly from whatever methods were used in the state fabricae. The Central Asian influence can be seen in the “Qum-Darya Bow”, found in a mass grave associated with a Chinese frontier post. Dated from the 1st century B.C. to the 3rd century A.D. similar ear and grip laths spread west with Hunnic influence. They are found in western Europe on such sites as Blucina and Wien-Simmering. Such bows used up to seven ear and grip laths, compared to four on the Yrzi bow"</i>

Jag är inte riktigt med på vad <i>ear and grip laths </i> är. Är det bitar av ben/annat trä som är laminerade på bågen kanske?


/Wolfie

"Always carry a flagon of whiskey in case of snakebite and furthermore always carry a small snake"

W. C. Fields

Statistik: Postat av Vargman — 30 augusti 2010, 07:53


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